Elyse Goldstein, in her recent piece, “Why I’m Not Fasting on Tisha B’Av,” makes a number of thoughtful points regarding the upcoming national day of Jewish mourning. I commend her for her principled and intentional living and would like to respond with my own take on some of her themes. She says:
I’m not fasting because the oldest symbol of that so-called “unity” — the Western Wall — is a battleground for religious pluralism, and I imagine that if the kohanim were still around, they would be on the side of the Haredim, not on the side of those women who, like me, want to be full participating Jews there with tallit, tefillin, and Torah.
I’m not fasting because I’m afraid of what it would look like for women if we actually rebuilt the Temple.
The Talmud says that the reason the Temple was destroyed – one of the major occasions we mourn on this day – is baseless hatred. And that all the while we still engage in it, a new Temple cannot be rebuilt. So I feel that as long as there is infighting, at the Kotel or anywhere else, we MUST mourn, we MUST fast, we must demonstrate that it is not OK. The Temple I envision, that I have learned about, is a Temple of unity for all, where both men and women achieve spiritual fulfillment and joy in varied yet deeply engaging ways. The Temple I pray for is the one in which there are no Haredim, no secular, no men vs. women, no feminists vs. traditionalists. If this sounds utopian and messianic it’s because that’s exactly the miracle I am praying for.
To imagine whether that Temple will include women in tefillin or not, religious equality as we imagine it, what the people “allowed” therein will be wearing or believing, is to painfully limit the Temple to our own small human boxes. This is the constraint I fast for. I mourn because I believe in the miracle of dreaming bigger than this, and because we’re not yet there. Fasting reminds me.
Elyse continues:
Eventually in our day, all Jews have the authority to be their own priests, to hold holiness in their own hands, to read their own Psalms as they ascend the stairs of their synagogue, to lead their own prayers, and even to make their own halachic decisions. I celebrate that democratization.
Democracy is rule by the people. This is a good, maybe the best, man-made system of governance ever invented. I’m a fan. But if I believe in a holy, eternal, all-knowing and all-powerful being, who is also all-loving and all-good, then I think a world of rule by Him is even better. It is for this reason that I mourn – for that loss. For that vanished clarity. For that broken connection. Rule by the people is only as good as the people. When I look around at the Jewish people and ask myself the tough question, “So how are we doing as a light unto the nation, guys?” I feel just a little bit depressed. In some ways we’re doing great. In others we’re failing. It is for this that I must fast and must mourn.
On the modern state of Israel, Elyse says:
And I’m not fasting because I believe we are already living in the third period, in the time of the sovereign nation of Israel, and though the Temple doesn’t exist anymore, Israel certainly does.
I travel to Israel at least annually. I have had a child living there almost uninterrupted for the past four years. We ourselves started our married lives there and our first three children were born there (Shaarei Tzedek: best hospital evah). But modern Israel also must be mourned. That our children have to fight for our national survival. That our enemies kill us. That the infighting is so bad there, it embarrasses me as an educator and as a fellow Jew.
There is so, so much to celebrate about Israel but Tisha B’Av is not the day to celebrate. Tisha B’Av is the day to say: it’s not good enough. We can be better. We can have peace – within and without. We can have moral governance. We can love our neighbors and they can love us. We can abolish poverty. We can. And because we haven’t yet, I fast. And I mourn.
While we are mourning the destruction of a mythical “unity” — one we never had, with the infighting of the Pharisees and Saducees, Essenes and Zealots to name a few — we are blinded to the reality of destructive narratives in both Israel and the Diaspora today.
This is not the “unity” I mourn. This is the baseless hatred of which I speak. The unity I mourn only happened once in our history: the era of King Solomon, where we did have peace, prosperity, spiritual clarity and love. The Jewish unity I mourn encompasses not hegemony or sameness but 12 tribes, different yet in love. The Jewish unity I mourn is like a family where each member is a different flower and the leaders know, wisely, how to tie a huge bow around them all and make it a bouquet.
And precisely because we don’t yet have that, precisely for the reasons that Elyse is not fasting, I am. Because I believe it can, and will be better, and I never want to forget that.
This is inspiring. I am moved by your vision and touched by the humanity you describe. I choose to look forward and aim high. I mourn the loss of understanding and this piece says it so well. Thank you!
Wow! Beautiful!
Thank you, Ruchi! You always turn my mourning into dancing. Fasting for unity, not just the re-building of a physical structure, is so consistent with your dedication and your beautiful life.
thank you so much for sharing. I add that I will presumably be fasting on sunday (if nothign changes tomorrow and if my dr lets) because YOU FEEL AT HOME THERE. As long as dedicated, mitzva-observing Jews don’t feel the need to be HERE (even if they have to go there for a while to do an important job,as you do), we are missing something.
AND, of course, becausse corruption and disreegrad for other people’s needs and rights , are still too commmon in our Jewish communities. Hazon Yeshayahu needs to still be read and internalized.
Ruchi,
Once again, you have touched my soul with your beautiful words. Elyse may not feel the need to fast: yes there is a State of Israel, but I don’t agree with her other reasoning. For me, we as a nation cannot seem to overcome our sinat chinam for the our fellow jew whether they are members of the LGBTQ community, less religious, women who have semicha, hareidim, chilonim….the list goes on.
May this tisha b’av bring Am Yisrael clarity, sensitivity and love for our fellow Jew.
Again, thank you for your beautiful words.
I like your thoughts very much, but find one troubling aspect to this piece. I am also orthodox, but I know Rabbi Elyse, and although I’m saddened by her pessimism of the Jewish people’s future, and don’t “hold by” her positions, I respect her commitment. By consistently referring to her as “Elyse” instead of Rabbi Goldstein, whether you agree with the nomenclature or not, is to perpetuate disrespect and lack of the ahavos Yisroel you aim to promote.
Thank you Molly. I used the nomenclature supplied in Rabbi Goldstein’s byline, but to your point, I should have been more conscious of her title.
Love it! This was very inspiring. Thank you.
Kol Ha kavod. Yes you answered with ‘kavod’ respect. You answered to the points brought up, with honesty and ckarity. Without focusing on the person rather focusing on the statement itself, no matter who was stating those feelings. You wrote with respect for Ha Kadish Boruch Hu, not for yourself. And therein lies why we fast this day….for Hashem’s Divine Presence is not as obvious due to our loss, and as you point out, that is the bottom line for our fasting and tears. To change what is . Thank you
What a load on nonsense. Elyse is not fasting because she is doing what all “progressives” do. When a halacha is difficult or somehow not PC, they justify not doing it with all kinds or rationalizations and excuses. And for a leader of a community to do so publicly is a true disgrace. Typikal. The typo is intentional.
Hi Kevin, I actually disagree with both your tone and content. I think these choices were made thoughtfully and intentionally. I don’t know the author outside of this article so why would I assume laziness? I wouldn’t want someone to make those kinds of assumptions about me.
Kevin, unless you know the writer, how can you presume to know her motivations? Yes, there are people who rationalize in order to do what they want to do. But can you honestly say, with certainty, that there isn’t a single person in the world who is sincere in thinking it’s not necessary to fast on Tisha Be’av? To me that sounds extremely presumptuous.
I did not see the word ‘laziness’ in Kevin ‘s comment. Perhaps his tone was strong, yet, his words had truth.
Inspired by Kevin
Democracy is not the G-d of the Jewish people
Tefilin are not in service of democracy
Taleisim are not in service of democracy
Friday night candle lighting is not in service of democracy
Marriage under a canopy is not in service of democracy
Prayer is not in service of democracy
All these commandments plus another 600 and some are part of the service of the Jewish nation to their G-d, the G-d of their fathers and — yes for those who need to see this in bold black print — the G-d of their mothers. This service, when done properly, elevates and sanctifies and prepares the Jew in order to satisfy the longing of the Jewish soul to be in a relationship with its Creator.
If the author longs for democratic practice, if that is what speaks most deeply and honestly to her, by all means let her seek her truth. The blatant question is why must Judaism be exploited in this quest? Let this explorer find her own symbols and practices and places and titles that will give voice to her democratic passion. Where is this insistence on falsifying the Torah coming from?
I missed this post somehow.
Ruchi, I like your recasting of “why fast?” in terms of mourning our failures. Do you think of that future unity, temple and rule of God as REALLY something that will happen, or as just an ideal to aspire to? Is it blasphemous to say it’s a great ideal and something to work toward, but not a real thing that will happen?
You may have missed it because I switched to WordPress and this post didn’t go out via email. Hopefully fixed for next time.
I believe this is something that will, actually, happen one day.
Elyse – why stop with Tisha B’Av?
Be intellectually honest and reject Chanukkah and Purim as well since they were also created by those mysonogistic Rabbis. In fact just skip along picking and choosing what suits your fancy with a complete disregard to any Jewish traditions. You will follow in the footsteps of other sects and world religions that broke away from Judaism. Follow your heart. Pray to the deity that you have created.
I know we’re already in the month of Elul, but I am just reading this post now and felt I wanted to add a different perspective that has come up a lot this year regarding Tisha B’av. Ruchi, I think you brought up very important and certainly valid points about why we continue to mourn on Tisha B’av and fast. I, too, fast and keep to the customs of this solemn, sad day. But I must admit, especially as someone who lives in Israel that it is difficult to sit in our beautiful city of Jerusalem, or anywhere else in this miraculous country and chant year after year the kinot of how Jerusalem is destroyed, in ruins, desolate and barren. Lament the absence of the Temple, cry over our lack of unity, mourn those who perished for Kiddush Hashem throughout our history, but it is hard to reconcile the fact that we do not even mention that we are once again living in our homeland, children are once again playing in the streets of Jerusalem like the prophets said would be… I think this conflict is starting to ring loud in (some) people’s thoughts when they really pay attention to the kinot that we say with such fervor on Tisha B’av.